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Survey: Bent Shaft vs Straight Shaft & Shoulder Dislocations Got it. Low brace is usually defined as rolling your wrists forward and using the back face of your paddle blade to brace, hence my confusion. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : William Nealy's book - "KAYAK" Author: jP
Subject: William Nealy's book - "KAYAK"
Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 5:04pm

Good points, Jed.
Yup. You really can simultaneously push and pull with both hands better with the narrow stance. Again, triggered by Torso Rotation. That can't be stressed enough. And as jed and megan pointed out the narrow stance lets you extend more of the shaft, and therefore the blade, a bit further past your toes when you sink that catch. But again, you are also exposed to more torque, so you need to know what your doing.


Originally posted by jalmquist

Don't get off the interstate!  



Haha-
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : William Nealy's book - "KAYAK" Author: Portage Bro
Subject: William Nealy's book - "KAYAK"
Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 5:25pm

I still have all 4 of the late W. Nealy's books and one of his posters. The first 3 were basically jumbo size underground comic books for paddlers, and then he published Kayak, a book with illustrations and explanations that were far more accessible to novice kayakers than any previous instruction book. I suggest you find someone of similar build who has a smooth and strong paddling style, then study the details (like hand position) of how they do it. Take every opportunity to practice good technique in the flat water between drops.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : CC Stilly tomorrow Author: outdoorjunkie88
Subject: CC Stilly tomorrow
Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 5:19pm

I'm planning an afternoon run on the sky tomorrow but i would be interested for friday
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : William Nealy's book - "KAYAK" Author: jP
Subject: William Nealy's book - "KAYAK"
Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 5:16pm

Originally posted by Jed Hawkes


Really there is no wrong way to position you hands on the paddle it really comes down to what works for you as a paddler.


I gotta say though that statements like that are thrown about way too often and tend to lack substance. Not trying to pick a fight with my jedi friend here, but statements like that seem to imply there is no correct way.

Particularly concerning the forward stroke and other stroke technique, there is a such thing as proper form. Not that I profess to be 100% dialed into it by any means. There is a basic ballpark you can find your way towards and then its all about your habits as a paddler.

Whether you want to keen into the deeper underlying form or just turn off your mind relax and float downstream. And, there is time under the sun for both of these modes. Myself I find that lazily floating along is more rewarding after having applied myself to the journey of 10,000 river miles with a bit of intent and, dare I say, discipline.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : William Nealy's book - "KAYAK" Author: Matt Haverly
Subject: William Nealy's book - "KAYAK"
Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 6:12pm

I just finished reading the book last night.

Another thing that jumps out at me as I read it is how frequently he recommends reverse sweeps, or reverse "slaps" for many types of illustrated scenarios.

Some people are really resistant to the idea of using any reverse sweep/rudder/brake stroke at all, and recommend a sweep on the right as opposed to a reverse stroke of any kind on the left. The book reinforces an idea that I like - that there is a place for every stroke and much of that has to do with your speed vs. the speed of the current, and what your desired speed is. If I am already going too slow to punch a hole and I need to change boat angle prior to it, I will probably sweep. If I am already in fast water and going faster than the water, I can probably do some type of braking reverse stroke. Although you hear many people demonize any braking strokes of any kind.





Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : William Nealy's book - "KAYAK" Author: Matt Haverly
Subject: William Nealy's book - "KAYAK"
Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 6:02pm

Great comments/responses.

Well, it is likely my paddle is too short. I have had more than one person who watched me paddle ask me if my paddle was too short. Never have they asked if it maybe was too long. I have a bent shaft Werner Powerhouse that is 197cm long and has a 15 degree feather. Got is used for a great deal. But the Werner site itself says that for a guy my height (6 foot 2 inches), I should have a 200cm paddle. So the preferred paddle length as per the manufacturer specifies 3cm longer than what I am using.

I'm not gonna run off and blame my paddling difficulties on my paddle or anything, but I may get a longer paddle next time - and just go right to the size recommended by the manufacturer for my height.

Without even changing paddle though, from what I have tried already, my grip placement on the paddle was too wide.   I do not know enough about the bent shaft paddle to know where the manufacture expects you to grab within the curve, but to me it feels wide - maybe just a bit - but that could be due to the whole paddle being 3cm shorter than the manufacturer's spec for my size.

I think the decrease in leverage on the paddle with the narrower grip actually forces the issue of using torso more for any stroke - sweep, or powerstroke. Using the torso seems to be happening more naturally with the narrow grip somehow, and the blade is definitely getting better purchase deeper into the water which is helping everything.


Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
The Buzz's new look!! Google Dark Reder Chrome extension: it can help clean up contrast on all web sites.... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Ortleib dry bags I'm sure you could make your own, just saturate some blue shop (paper) towels in a Ziploc. I'm pretty sure 303 doesn't dry or evaporate, so they... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : William Nealy's book - "KAYAK" Author: Portage Bro
Subject: William Nealy's book - "KAYAK"
Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 6:33pm

I think you are on the right track. I haven't seen slaps used in good paddling form, but we all need braking strokes to dump speed at times. I saw a trend toward shorter paddles when park-and-play became popular. A long paddle could get in the way for freestyle, but for river running you would be better off with a longer shaft.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Canadian dollars sucks - have you considered rafting BC, Canada this year? CDN dollar now down to 0.69. $1 USD = $1.45 CDN. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
The Buzz's new look!! Always thought the old style looked like a Myspace or Geocities page. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
play spots on the Salmon/Snake river idaho Well I don't have a lot of time because it is a family reunion and so I will mostly be hangin with the fam Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
R2 Raft Camera Mount No No, Still getting "the cat," but when I took guide training last year I realized how much fun paddle crewing a raft is as well. Actually just... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
the saga continues It's not like he's hard to spot. He's brutally obvious as he uses the same tactics that he thinks will sell his boats. Even when you think he's... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Thursday green or something else? Author: olyyakker
Subject: Thursday green or something else?
Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 7:46pm

Tilton would be awesome, Toutle would be good as well.
Mark 360-789-2361
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
the saga continues I have an honest question for James so I can get this all straight. Is this correct: Canyon Whitewater Inflatables is no longer in biz Canyon... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Trying to find a song was it this one? https://youtu.be/AgocNx3-De0 Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
The Buzz's new look!! wow, so either that was a wicked fast little change there. or maybe i need new glasses! Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Ortleib dry bags I keep a 2-4 oz pump spray bottle of 303 in my personal box. If you apply a fresh coat every 5-7 days of use they work well. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
To Floor or not to Floor? yeah, that doesn't sound like much fun i've seen a few different captains bay floors. but nothing that really made me think it'd be any better... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
New look for BUZZ! ---Quote (Originally by lhowemt)--- Will we be able to "like" or "thank" posts? That would be a welcome addition IMO. ---End Quote--- Great idea,... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lost \ Found \ Stolen : Found on CC Stilly: Red Dagger Nomad Author: ZakW
Subject: Found on CC Stilly: Red Dagger Nomad
Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 9:13pm

Came across a red Dagger Nomad this morning. It was vertically pinned in the center of the river (below the boulder garden that follows Double Drop). The boat is sticking out like a sore thumb, hard to miss.

Tried to remove it but was unsuccessful. It's jammed in there pretty good between a rock and what looked like someone's discarded christmas tree.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Noboard, snurfer, snow surfers? Sports Athority in Missoula has some for 99$. They had 3 left on sale last weekend. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
the saga continues Excellent question Shapp, Is it alright if I send you the answer to all that in a PM. I am trying not to promote anything on the buzz as per request... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Carvedog's loss ---Quote (Originally by LSB)--- I can't imagine what it's like. I hope you will always see her in your girls. ---End Quote--- In every gesture I... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
The Buzz's new look!! Oh, I hadn't noticed. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
To Floor or not to Floor? Right. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
The Buzz's new look!! Another vote for the white being bad. I thought it was a little harsh this morning and at night in a dark room it is worse. Its too bad I missed... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Thursday green or something else? Author: imageAK
Subject: Thursday green or something else?
Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 12:55am

If the two possibles for kalama falls fall through, the toutle is my backup, need some good exercise. 360.269.2409 if interested. Ill be up and know by 7am.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Drysuit repair I have a level 6 drysuit with all of the seam tape ungluing. What is best for repair of seams,seam tape or a seam sealer like plastiseal? Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
The Buzz's new look!! Agree with above comments but will prob not notice or even remember after a few days. Esp if there are new features and faster function. But... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Ortleib dry bags I've been told by two different commercial guides that Chapstick works in a pinch. It seemed to help my wife's Watershed on a trip last fall. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Purgatory Lost GOPRO I somehow lost my Hero 4 black with black housing and a floatation foam handle at Purgatory Last Saturday. If you found it please return it. It is... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Drysuit repair I'd have it done professionally. If Level 6 won't stand behind their product, try Boulder Mountain Repair ( Boulder Mountain Repair | Colorado... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
The Buzz's new look!! There still needs to be an IK forum. There are way more IK discussions on the buzz than SUP. Also the Mountain Buzz banner at the top of my screen... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Ortleib dry bags I think 303 smells pretty good as far lubes and cleaners go, now my gun cleaning kit...that reeks. My vacuum sealer can re-seal foil lined bags,... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
To Floor or not to Floor? Oh it's way better then standing on rubber, and there are some safety advantages to having a solid platform to stand on, all in all I love my full... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
News on AAA Inflatables? Last time I was in Denver, Mark and Judi at AAA Inflatables told me they would be re-locating from their old shop on Larimer Street to a new building... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
The Buzz's new look!! Can you put a blue background with white letters in a "Forum Skin" option in the user control panel? Each parson could select the look they... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Class IV skills and qualities that make for an ideal paddling partner This is too funny Chief! Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Drysuit repair I think their warranty is good for a year. I just sent in my spray skirt and they sent me a brand spankin new and improved version. I had it back in... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
play spots on the Salmon/Snake river idaho http://www.amazon.com/Playboaters-Guide-Idaho-Rick-Fernald/dp/0970601808 If you got $4.50 lying around, this is a great guide. Definitely has some... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Kayak Porn Thursday Author: water wacko
Subject: Kayak Porn Thursday
Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 8:45am

A day to get stoked and a follow up day to prepare for the weekend! No one really works on Thursdays anyway. Here's some new local kayak porn fresh off the PNdubya presses. Easy wit dem boof strokes      

http://https://vimeo.com/152481082

http://https://vimeo.com/152207122


Edited by water wacko - Today at 8:46am
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Aluminum Brazing Rods ---Quote (Originally by caverdan)--- Unfortunately.......the shop I took them to wanted .......quite a bit more......than a twenty dollar bill.... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
News on AAA Inflatables? All it says on the former site is: "Sorry for the delay!. AAA Inflatable's move has taken longer than expected. We will be announcing our new... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Ortleib dry bags I used 303 for years and then someone recommended Burt's Bees Farmers Friend Hand Salve. I've been using it for the last year and I really like it.... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
The Buzz's new look!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TtGQnyPZ6g Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Aire River Couch Mods This is from the Salmon this summer. We strapped it on the back of the cat for a lazy afternoon. Actually, daughter fell asleep in it for a short... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
To Floor or not to Floor? I like running my floor somewhat soggy in low water situations for purposes of not getting stuck, but I like running it hard for purposes of keeping... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else