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Please don't trash the Grand Canyon	You guys who used groovers without seats and dug latrines on river trips must be old. My family started boating in 1979. I went on my first GC trip...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Rogue Permit winners are posted	In 12 years of applying for permits, I've never won, but it doesn't keep me from doing the Rogue 5 or 6 times a year.	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Grand Canyon Packrafting	Here's my gear list from the Jan trip: BOATING: Alpacka Yukon Yak with WW deck, cargo fly. Added thigh straps and NRS back band Drysuit NRS...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Grand Canyon Trip May, Easy Privat Boat Size Question	18's have much bigger coolers. Run Lava left:o	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Middle Fork Nooksack Visual Beta	Author: Nick Subject: Middle Fork Nooksack Visual Beta Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 8:05am Noticed the Middle Fork Nooksack section on PP could use a bit of love. : ) The clip attached is from the dam down over the weekend. (Lower Section) We've been in there around -800 and I'd consider that to be the good side of high. Such a quality run and cant wait to check out the upper section. Happy Paddling! ~ Cheers https://vimeo.com/157398616	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Please don't trash the Grand Canyon	---Quote (Originally by whiskey_river)--- Scary to think what the world was like before fire pans and blankets. ---End Quote--- Actually those...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Please don't trash the Grand Canyon	Just for the sake of argument and I'm not saying no wrong was done. But would anyone be aware of this huge ecological disaster if not for the...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
AIRE BAKraft Expedition	---Quote (Originally by GreenWall)--- I would be more concerned about the foot long gash just after taking off. Are the sharp rocks up there just...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Minimum Green Gorge Levels	Author: The NZA Subject: Minimum Green Gorge Levels Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 11:06am I think 1800 to 2200 is pretty great. I broke my arm in Mercury at 1400, so I am admittedly particularly biased about Mercury at lower water. That said, even with minimal skill, you will be fin in Mercury 80% of the time. But if you flip in it at those lower levels (<1500), you have a decent chance of finding a rock in there. I have done it in an Alpacka at 850-950, which gave me a good glimpse of what's under there (here come the spoilers): it's rocks. A whole bunch of rocks. And it's steep. Which is why it's fast. The raging river actually has a few rapids similar to Mercury, i.e. fast and bumpy. The Silly Stilly at 6 feet or so does too (but not as fast). But there are really not a lot of good rapids that prepare you for it. But I am not sure how much preparation will really help anyway. A brace is your best weapon in there, as our your read and run skills. If you stay pretty close to that left bank, you are probably going to have the best luck; I got into trouble by going to far to the right. But I have see other folks ring their bell in there at those lower levels, even hugging the left bank. So it happens. But at 1800, there seems to be enough water in there to pad it out pretty well. And at that level, along the right bank, there aren't any substantial holes ... maybe a little destabilizing, but you can punch through it all with minimal effort. And everything else at that level is great too.	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Please don't trash the Grand Canyon	---Quote (Originally by trevko)--- Yes, they would. Maybe not the who you think though. The NPS, at least back in the 90's, would stop at beaches...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Minimum Green Gorge Levels	Author: jalmquist Subject: Minimum Green Gorge Levels Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 12:24pm *Originally posted by The NZA* as (are) your read and run skills.... Bingo. The cleanest line I've found in Mercury at low flows is to start RR of a large river center rock that sits near the top center of the main drop. Go just right of this rock, and work left immediately below. Basically, you're following the current. Pretty clean line even down to levels well below 1K. Of course, things could have changed in there.	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
The ultimate boot??	5.10 guide tennies. Very grippy when wet. Somewhat fashionable as well. Sent from my iPhone using Mountain Buzz	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Please don't trash the Grand Canyon	---Quote (Originally by trevko)--- Yes, they would. Maybe not the who you think though. The NPS, at least back in the 90's, would stop at beaches...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Boat Transport via Trailer	---Quote (Originally by yesimapirate)--- It's always seemed odd to me. Am I alone on this? ---End Quote--- Your not alone. As someone who tries...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Dirty First Aid	Weekend warrior, or expedition paddler, may be somewhere in between? Have you checked out the Dirty First Aid series? Written by Daz Clarkson-King. ...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lower Owyhee Tow/paddle out?	I just did Rome to Leslie Gulch and took out this past Monday, current all the way to LG. We did not use any motor or tow and simply rowed. Blessed...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Technical Canyoning day trips while rafting the Grand Canyon?	Rich Rudlow had a great GC canyoneering book out. Edit- oops, it is the Todd Martin book you have. We did some on my last trip but much of...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
CLR	Any of you raft builders out there have preferred CLR that you like working with on 1.25 T6 schedule 40? M3B Die Set - 1.660Â? OD (4.5-180) 1 1/4Â?...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Minimum Green Gorge Levels	Author: chipmaney Subject: Minimum Green Gorge Levels Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 2:29pm The reason people don't like lower levels is because boats work better with current.... I don't run the green under 1800; not enough current. 1800-2400 is the perfect level with nice waves and channelization. Getting up between 2500-3500, the river becomes choppy and reactionary and more pushy. Not much fun in my opinion. It cleans up again at around 4000, but that is obviously way to high for a class iii-iv boater his/her first time down. For you, I agree, 1800-2000 is the optimal level.	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Minimum Green Gorge Levels	Author: dave Subject: Minimum Green Gorge Levels Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 2:20pm I would say I am the expert on the Upeer Green between 300cfs and 3,000. I dont run it much over 3k, just not into the consequences of making a mistake at higher water. Since it is in my backyard basically, we run it almost every weekend... Anyway, 1,500 to 1,800cfs is a great first time level. 900 to 1,100 is an extreamly fun level for working on boat control and lots of chutes and drops, I dont understand why people dont like the lower levels, I can run the whole section without hitting one rock down to 600 cfs. It just takes good boat control and river reading skills. 2,000 to 3,000 starts to get the big water feel and more pushy with fun big waves and some good play and surf here and there. Over 3,000cfs you better have some good class IV skills and watch out for the sneaker holes that can give you a good ride or terrible swim... Below 600 cfs, better get out the ducky, some good boat control skills and a six pack of beer for the slow sections...	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Middle Fork Nooksack Visual Beta	Author: Travisimo Subject: Middle Fork Nooksack Visual Beta Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 2:32pm What an awesome video Nick! Good edit, makes me want to get back in there. Been many years. Was that the new Hawaii 5-0 that the orange boater worked out of the hole on? That was awesome, thought he (Cooper?) swam for sure when you cut out...	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Swift water technician course recommendation	Author: chipmaney Subject: Swift water technician course recommendation Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 2:32pm Just an FYI, "Swiftwater Rescue" courses are generally designed for emergency crews and fireman and such. There are certain swiftwater classes tailored to kayaking, like those mentioned above at Wave Trek and Wet Planet. You can typically find Swiftwater courses offered through Washington Kayak Club, too.	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Salt is on the rise.	Salt still running amazingly great for a 9% remaining snowpack. Woke up this morning at 10:13.	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lower Owyhee Tow/paddle out?	It seems that the lake would be rising quite a bit especially with the bump in flow, which likely wont slow much though the next week. I used...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
CLR	I use a 6.0 180 in " and 1.5" OD as a hobbiest frame builder. Thats all I have. Works for me.	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Dirty First Aid	While IV's are not needed, they sure as hell bring folks back from a hangover or dehydration in a hurry. The crew of nurses I run with insist on...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
SUP recommendations for rafters	---Quote (Originally by Read_N_Run)--- All great feedback. So 10' or longer - what about width. I assume that also adds to the stability. What would...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
High water Hells	Shoot, sorry dirtbagkayaker. I didn't read the poster names right	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Oar Locks, Springs, and washers...	I have actually seen Greenwall's frames and it they are definitely well thought out and pretty sweet setups, to the point that I am looking at...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
West water 3/18/2016	going down westy, gonna do a mountain bike shuttle. Come hit it up	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Salt is on the rise.	I am interested in heading back this weekend for a day trip or two. I would probably be in my IK. Anyone else interested? Hit the water while it is...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Pants/Bibs for Tall & Skinny	Arcteryx.	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Swift water technician course recommendation	Author: Jed Hawkes Subject: Swift water technician course recommendation Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 4:54pm Like chipmaney said, take a whitewater rescue course. I took the swiftwater and there is a lot of information in the swiftwater that you will never need or is not practical in a whitewater situation. For example they heavily teach the "pig Rig" which requires having a separate static line which you will likely never have unless your on the grand canyon or other raft support multiday. The Whitewater course also teaches fpecific techniques for Kayaks and rafts, the swiftwater is for firemen and sherffis and the tools that they ahve at hand are very different from what you and I carry. All that Being said, if you can't find a Whitewater course being taught then Swiftwater is better than nothing. Also, buy a copy of "mountaineering: Freedom of the hills", it has some of the most in depth rope work skills that you can learn. I started as a climber and regularly apply the rope work skills I learned as a climber to paddling and rafting. Also take everything you learn in these classes with a grain of salt, they really work to teach you the hard skills (rope work, systems, and stuff like that) and less about the thought process. Not their fault, but there is not really enough time in three day course to really get up to snuff on everything you need to learn. when doing a rescue start simple then move to complex, too often people want to start rigging a z drag when there is a simpler and faster solution to the problem. Good luck and have fun, also don't be dummy and take yours in March like I did. I froze my ass off.	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : File your eComment with FERC today!	Author: jP Subject: File your eComment with FERC today! Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 5:12pm Bump.	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Minimum Green Gorge Levels	Author: jP Subject: Minimum Green Gorge Levels Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 5:11pm well, I have to weigh in here, given the role I've played in this discussion in the past. 1800-2000 is a decent "modern" first timer flow bracket, assuming the paddler is qualified. Which, you are Megan. But I would actually say maybe its more like 1500-1900 if you want to follow more traditional sensibilities of slightly slower/weaker current. really 1400 isn't too bad but it is getting scratchy. In the past paddlers have targeted 1000-1200 as a first time flow which I think is erroneous and not really a well thought out line of reasoning. Riverbeds like the White Salmon have more of a V-shape which somewhat channelizes lower volumes of water in a decent way, giving you adequate depth. But the Green has more of a "U-Shape" or a pan to it. That means that as you get into those artificially low flow brackets, the water is spread out among a wider river bed, less channelized, and more shallow. People who swim in the Upper Gorge between 900-1200 often get pretty banged up. Not only that but even if you got a solid roll, you are more likely to hit your head. And even if you don't flip at all you'll find that the fabric of the current is ripped to shreds by tiny little fu*ker rocks that litter the whole run. Not fun. Don't care what anyone says. The sport is called Whitewater Kayaking. Not "Lubricated Rock paddling" The late 90's are long behind us and the "low water metric" that served as a steep creeking laboratory is out moded. Besides, the Upper Green isn't a steep creek at all. So the "Low Water is Safer" Logic is wrong and should be thrown out the window. Modern boats crave higher volume. One only needs to hone his or her skills adequately" Roll, Forward Stroke Mechanics, Eddy Turns and Ferries, and of course a well timed boof stroke. All of these skills can be cultivated on any class III run. I'm gonna say 1500-2000. You'll love it if you haven't been, Megan!	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Please don't trash the Grand Canyon	Fire pans were implemented in the GC in 1974. We ( the commercial outfitters) were each assigned a stretch of the river to cleanup. Despite tearing...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
High water Hells	---Quote (Originally by Spaceghost)--- Shoot, sorry dirtbagkayaker. I didn't read the poster names right ---End Quote--- No worries (-: No not...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Save The Sky from SnoPUD: What YOU can do	Author: jP Subject: Save The Sky from SnoPUD: What YOU can do Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 5:27pm 3) If you mailed your post card, why not get five more cards and distribute them? Easy! Everyone knows five people, right? Bonus points if they are non-boaters, extra bonus points especially if they are Snohomish County residents, as these Ratepayers will have a bigger impact with FERC. If you volunteer to hand them out, try to have them filled out on the spot and retain them for yourself. That way you can not only keep track of how many get signed, but you can also personally ensure they get mailed. Why stop at 5? Practice your arts of persuasion and hand out 10. Be rock star about it. Hand out 30. Imagine ten paddlers handing out 30+ cards each. We need to to be the multiplier here. The River Can?t Speak For Itself. Edited by jP - Today at 5:27pm	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Save The Sky from SnoPUD: What YOU can do	Author: jP Subject: Save The Sky from SnoPUD: What YOU can do Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 5:25pm The following posts outline, step by step, some of the things you can do immediately... 1) Visit Savetheskyriver.org to aquaint yourself with the issue and SIGN THE PETITION. 2) Get your hands on one of our nifty little postcards and mail it immediately to FERC. Tell FERC to Deny SnoPUD?s Draft License Application. Contact jP, Lora Cox, or Irene if you are interested in distributing more postcards to more people. This is where we are at now and we have to get as many distributed, filled out, and sent into FERC by the end of the month. Who wants to help? Contact me, Irene, or Lora. Edited by jP - Today at 5:27pm	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Save The Sky from SnoPUD: What YOU can do	Author: jP Subject: Save The Sky from SnoPUD: What YOU can do Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 5:31pm 4) File an online eComment on FERC?s eComment Page. Reference Docket # P-14295. (That?s the ?Sunset Fish Passage And Energy Project?). Any comment saying you Oppose the Dam is better than no comment at all. But focusing on one of the many reasons why this hydro proposal is a bad idea is better. Here is a very basic list of reasons why a dam between Canyon and Sunset Falls is wrong: -Bad for the Fish (Salmon, Steelhead, Trout) -Bad for Water Quality -Blasting a Tunnel through bedrock just 330? from an incredibly active, frequent Landslide is reckless and irresponsible -Dam Will NOT produce the projected amount of power as predicted due to frequent Times of inoperable conditions (river levels too high or too low). Even if it does produce its expected output, it will only contribute 1% to SnoPID?s energy supply. -SnoPUD?s draw of water from that section of the river violates Minimum Instream Flows as mandated by the Dept. of Ecology (WAC 173-507-020) -The Skykomish River is part of the Washington?s Scenic River system (RCW 79A.55) and is Eligible for Federal Wild and Scenic Status as recognized by the NWPCC. The Northwest Power and Conservation Council has determined the Sky as protected from hydro development. -Solar can be a more effective investment with the same money. Given this long list of problems with SnoPUD?s plan, it is best to pick one, or at most two items and focus on them in detail. The limit is 6,000 characters, which is a lot. But if you are just filing a basic ?I?m against this. Please Deny the Draft License Application?, it's probably best to keep your statement to 250 words or less. Apparently FERC is not so interested in the finances of the project, which is yet another lopsided detail. While commenting on any one of these issues is good as a comment, it is far more effective to attack the DLA itself. Now you?re talking about breaking into the document, reading it, and looking for weaknesses to point out to FERC. This is truly the way to find that missing scale under the dragon?s body so as to fire the arrow and slay the beast. More to come soon I gotta run I'm too busy. Please get involved we need all the help we can get!	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Boat Transport via Trailer	You'll gain about 2.5 psi between Denver and the Divide. I make sure the boat's a little on the soft side when I leave home, then usually stop at...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
What kind of kayak is this?	---Quote (Originally by shappattack)--- not sure of the brand but it looks like and ocean surfing kayak, probably don't ever see those out in...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
dry top and pants vs dry suit	I used a top and bottom combo for my first 2 seasons up here in Montana. I went for some long swims and only got a table spoon of water in. Overall...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lower Owyhee Tow/paddle out?	---Quote--- Camped at Greeley on the last night and made it all the way to LG and that was after a side hike, hot springs stop x2 and ranch stop....	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Road 300 to lower Cispus closed	Author: shanna Subject: Road 300 to lower Cispus closed Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 7:30pm You'll want to contact the email on the article as Michael has the details on the dates and such.	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : File your eComment with FERC today!	Author: septimus prime Subject: File your eComment with FERC today! Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 7:21pm I got Katy filing an ecomment. Keep it up. My post cards are in the mail.	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Boat Transport via Trailer	When I first bought a trailer (worth their weight in gold btw) I was running my cat "squishy" because I was so afraid of heat / pass expansion and...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Kayaking in Bozeman/Storing a kayak in College	Bring your creek boat for sure! Storage could be an issue, but check out that FB Group that Ihowemt suggested and maybe you can find someone willing...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
CLR	Do you have both dies or looking at buying one or the other? I think most shops for the 1.5 are using 6.5 and not the 5.5. If you have access to...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
AIRE BAKraft Expedition	---Quote (Originally by nastysauce)--- i think the only way around this would be to buy one of your $8000 setups right? ---End Quote--- Oh I love...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else

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