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Whitewater Forum : sample eComments to FERC	Author: jP Subject: sample eComments to FERC Posted: 12 Apr 2016 at 6:58pm Kimberly D. Bose, Secretary Federal Energy Regulatory Commission 888 First Street,NE Washington, DC 20426 Re: P-14295 Sunset Fall Fish Passage and Energy Project Dear Ms. Bose and members of the FERC Licensing Team, I find it unacceptable that Snohomish County PUD in Washington State is proposing a hydro electric project on the South Fork Skykomish, a river that is supposed to be legally protected as part of the state?s Scenic River System. RCW 79A.55. In fact it was the first river to be protected under the State Scenic River Act. Drawing water away from two waterfalls and the 1.1 miles in between would pose significant harm to threatened species such as Chinook Salmon, Steelhead and Bull trout. Less water means warmer temperatures and higher rates of predation. Out migrating fish require minimum flows that have been set by the Department of Ecology and this project would violate those instream flows. WAC 173-507-020. Also, The NW Power & Conservation Council has designated this stretch of river as Protected From Hydropower Development. Being a free flowing river that is eligible for Federal Wild and Scenic preservation, the Skykomish watershed should be recognised and protected as such. To ignore these existing protections is to go against the long term Public Interest of all Washingtonians. But what do ratepayers stand to gain from this project? The 1% of energy SnoPUD claims this project will contribute to the grid cannot justify violating the protections listed above. This project will undermine efforts to protect endangered fish, and that 1% of added energy can be easily made up by other means. Lastly this project will be expensive to construct and will produce expensive power. As if violating the protections already on the books isn't enough, ratepayers are asked to make a long term investment in this short sighted project in an era when we are spending millions removing dams. It makes no sense. Based on a thorough study of the information available, I must conclude that project P-14295 is a bad idea and it is Against The Public Interest of Snohomish County Ratepayers and Washington residents in general. Given the above reasons alone, it is your duty to deny SnoPUD?s Draft License Application. Sincerely, jP #### E. River Left Rd Rivertown, Wa ######	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : sample eComments to FERC	Author: jP Subject: sample eComments to FERC Posted: 12 Apr 2016 at 6:54pm So this thread does not cover the actual details on how to file an eComment w/ FERC. See the other thread for that which outlines the process. This thread is devoted to writing the actual eComments, or letters to FERC. ¡---The deadline for filing comments is 4/27/2016---! I have filed two comments with FERC so far, and will post them up in this here thread. Since an individual may file more than one comment, it may be helpful to write a different comment for each different issue. There are many reasons why Hydro Development on the Skykomish River is a bad idea. My first comment focused on three different existing protections for that stretch of river, because those are aleady legally established and therefore that should be the beginning and the end of this issue. The second comment is focused on the ongoing landslide. Both how it may be potentially destabilized by blasting the tunnels, and also a county survey that indicates the slide area is on a "Buried Valley" which could eventually re route the river around Sunset Falls itself. Anyway, yall can mine these two comments for the figures that are there, copy it or whatever just put it in your own words. I will make each comment I files a separate post.	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Silly Stilly Watch 2016	Author: JoesKayak Subject: Silly Stilly Watch 2016 Posted: 12 Apr 2016 at 6:50pm She's low now but some heavy rain coming through. If it comes up anyone up for Wednesday evening Lap?	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Conejos River	Sounds fun to me.	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lightning	The river is the lowest point in the valley so in theory you should be safer there since lightning seeks the higher points. Regardless, it's out of...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : sample eComments to FERC	Author: jP Subject: sample eComments to FERC Posted: 12 Apr 2016 at 7:05pm Kimberly D. Bose, Secretary Federal Energy Regulatory Commission 888 First Street,NE Washington, DC 20426 Re: P-14295 ?Sunset Fall Fish Passage and Energy Project? DLA Dear Ms. Bose and members of the FERC Licensing Team, As you are aware, the landslide at the base of Sunset Falls has been ongoing since 2013 and has claimed at least 5 cabins altogether. This winter alone three cabins were wiped out by it. The two layers of the slide zone are self evident, with the glacial till layer sitting on top of the ancient grey lake silt. Water is clearly coming out of the middle of the hillside where the two layers meet. It?s very hard to believe that blasting so close (within 330 feet!) will not disturb this already unstable area. After what Snohomish County has been through with Oso, I?m troubled that this idea can even be considered. And while I am no fluvial geomorphologist, I?m not surprised that such a buried valley would lie at the bend of the first oxbow just upstream of the proposed intake. The river is bending around a terminal moraine. With the soft composition of the glacial till, it can potentially erode away relatively quickly. It?s what rivers do. Eliminate double oxbows in search of the path of least resistance. Climatological projections indicate that we will likely have more frequent large scale flooding like we saw this past winter. Such spikes on the hydrograph may attack this ?Buried Valley? from both sides: by both scouring it from the upstream side and by continual landslides on the downstream side, until the river eventually reroutes itself. It wouldn?t surprise me after Oso. Washington?s landscape is ever changing. This timeless characteristic of geomorphology should cast some serious doubts on a secure future for this already questionable project. Not only due to the process of blasting the tunnels and the destabilization that could cause, but just as importantly the long term viability of an expensive, unnecessary and unwanted hydro project. Can it meet its demand output long enough to pay itself off? Or will it become obsolete, with the river simply changing course? Stranger things have happened in Washington?s geological history. It?s a foolish gamble for Snohomish County with expensive and irrevocable costs. Especially if it ends up high and dry. This project reminds me of the Monte Cristo Railroad and seems doomed to failure. Which is yet another reason why this Draft License Application should be denied, and the pre-existing protections for The Skykomish River should be honored and remain intact. Thank You for the opportunity to comment. jP #### E. River Left Rd Rivertown, Wa #####	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : sample eComments to FERC	Author: jP Subject: sample eComments to FERC Posted: 12 Apr 2016 at 7:00pm So that was my first comment, focused on the Existing Protections that should be legally adhered to. This next one is focused on the landslide...I posted pictures of it in the gallery here on PP.	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : sample eComments to FERC	Author: jP Subject: sample eComments to FERC Posted: 12 Apr 2016 at 7:15pm By the way, Since I am subscribed to FERC docket #P-14295, I get an email notification each time a new document is uploaded to the docket. So I get a little chime on my phone every time a comment card or eComment is filed, and subsequently have read most of the comments filed so far, so for those of you who pulled the trigger and submitted comments by now, I appreciate it. If you want to do like I did and post what you submitted here that would be great too and maybe help others draft something up.Some of the comments paddlers have made have been fantastic- well reasoned arguments that make a substantive point.	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Grand Junction 29RD wave has gone missing??!!	I saw that the river has jumped up over the weekend and took the dog down to where I remembered the old 29rd wave and it seemed to be totally washed...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Escalante ck. and, no, I don't think it's too early to post!	So the Delta and GJ guages of the Gunnison have been over 1000 cfs difference for a few days now; has anyone gotten a visual yet? I figured someone...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lightning	I would have to agree with dostep that it is probably out of your hands, when it's your time, it's just your time.	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
John day	No takers at all eh?	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Escalante ck. and, no, I don't think it's too early to post!	visual from yesterday was posted on the other most recent escalante thread	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Flip Videos ??	Cut Bait rapid, Chattahoochee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkAc_ImLcbQ&nohtml5=False	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Frame ideas for RMR storm	---Quote (Originally by 802flyfish)--- Just got accepted to yeti pro store so I'm looking to get one that will fit the storm. ---End Quote--- Is...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lightning	I think the boat insulating you from a strike is probably not valid. If lightning strikes your boat, you are the high point. That means the order of...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Sotar Legend vs Aire Wave Destroyer	Don't they hold to tubes in place? Seems like without the the tubes would roll out from under the frame. Jim	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Looking to join a trip or two	I struck out on all permits. Looking to join solid boaters on some of the classic river trips. Experienced boater and moderate/a bit wild in most...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Conejos River	hey Rojo, we have a small group of Ik's out of Montrose, Co. that plans on coming that way first part of May also, to run the upper Piedra, upper...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
# of people vs #of boats	I am a pretty easy going guy, but I've been bitten on the ass a few times. I don't want to take someone in my boat I don't already know. I don't want...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Just another WW video	I've swam skull. In the 12k-13k range. Wasn't rowing.	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lightning	I've been through a fair amount on the Jarbidge and Owyhee the times I was there, and we didn't have any close encounters there. Always seemed to hit...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Sotar Legend vs Aire Wave Destroyer	As for the Tempress seat. I notice they want to push you forward. I've started to offset them by rolling them back ( basically like shimming the...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : sample eComments to FERC	Author: tiziak Subject: sample eComments to FERC Posted: 12 Apr 2016 at 10:55pm You're doing great work JP! Thank you for spearheading this.	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
# of people vs #of boats	Thanks for the good advise. The Ik people are capable to row but may want to just float for a couple of the days. All Ik rowers (owners) have a...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Great Deals Out There	White water Raft and Equipment (http://dallas.craigslist.org/sdf/boa/5492774348.html)	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Trailer question?	I'd be concerned it would wear a hole for sure. I'd cut a rung off of the deck if it were mine. You still have plenty of tube support and you don't...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
John day	I have that week off but not sure about the destination. I have a group talking about the NF John Day, Owyhee if the water is still there, or the...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Hell's Canyon Beta	That is a great time to go. I have done three day trips to Pittsburgh a few times and always regretted it. Take your time and do an extra day at...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Sotar Legend vs Aire Wave Destroyer	Check out the attachment. The drop rails he was referring to are the seat bars. They are shaped so that the seat is lower in the frame.	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Conejos River	---Quote (Originally by abron)--- Scott, I am definitely interested in checking out the pinnacle gorge section. its only @ 3 hrs from santa fe. also...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lightning	---Quote (Originally by Lebowski)--- I think the boat insulating you from a strike is probably not valid. If lightning strikes your boat, you are...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lightning	I put up up the bimini top and and hope the it will travel through the aluminum poles and down the wet tubes while I am insulated by the air around...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Just another WW video	This is our low water trip last year on Skull. I think we only had 2-3 boats go the safe route (left sneak), then folks started steering river right...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Grand Junction 29RD wave has gone missing??!!	It was there last year, but at a much higher flow.	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Where to live based upon river selection	---Quote (Originally by Ripper)--- Local Texan here that is moving up to the Denver metroplex to join in the tourist trap fun in June. I also...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Conejos River	---Quote (Originally by lmyers)--- Although the Conejos and EF San Juan are extremely close as the crow flies, Elwood Pass is very rough and even if...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Just another WW video	Very nice! Good example of the Line at Skull. Class II move, Class IV consequences if you don't make it.	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Sotar Legend vs Aire Wave Destroyer	By lowering the seat you can stretch legs out which helps in bracing and they you can also run shorter towers because your knees can be lower.	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Hell's Canyon Beta	Hi trickpony, I have a July 26 Hells permit and also live in Colorado. It's a hell of a drive for a four day trip I agree, that's why I was...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lightning	What are your oars made of?..... I used to work on a fishing boat in the North Atlantic. We had carbon fiber gaffs that were stored vertically...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
cataract canyon	Thanks scrsqurrl, my previous statement about Rapid 10 is actually 5, I remember it was early in the canyon, I tried to go right of the current as...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Conejos River	---Quote (Originally by gunnerman)--- hey Rojo, we have a small group of Ik's out of Montrose, Co. that plans on coming that way first part of May...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : File your eComment with FERC today!	Author: cbishop1 Subject: File your eComment with FERC today! Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 9:10am Here's what I wrote, Sorry for the slow response JP! Keep pushing buddy! Greetings, I am writing to express my sincere disappointment that a dam is being considered on the Skykomish River near Sunset falls. As a PUD user, I can't help but feel there must be some sort of private interest that stands to gain from this ridiculous project. I say this because it seems like a terrible idea in every regard. Some wealthy interest making money seems like the only plausible motivation. I have read quite a bit of literature on the effect of dams for fish and other aquatic life. The results are often appalling. We have already decimated the Northwest fish population with dams, clear cutting (soil erosion), and pollution amongst other things. How can we even be considering adding a dam when we are removing them all around the Northwest? Fishermen as well as many other species rely on the fish for their survival, well being, and enjoyment. Another concern that comes to mind is our pristine Northwest scenery. The Northwest is moving away from dams, logging, and mining. Those industries are no longer economically feasible. Only a few wealthy citizens benefit from widespread destruction. The contemporary/future industry that will be successful in rural areas is tourism. We will run out of rivers to dam, trees to cut, and minerals to mine but we will always have our beautiful scenery if we are careful to protect it. Eco-tourism is the future for rural Northwest communities, it is time to embrace that. I myself know hundreds of people who use the Skykomish River for various forms of recreation. Adding a dam to POSSIBLY lower electricity costs is an incredibly ill conceived idea. Thank you for reading and for giving the opportunity for public comment. I sincerely hope rational and logical minds will prevail to cancel this project. Although I am sure the idea had good intentions, when one considers all the factors, costs, and benefits; it becomes clear that a dam has no place on the Skykomish River. Kind Regards, Colby Bishop	Professor Paddle	Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Where to live based upon river selection	To clarify, Texas is not where you should live based off of river selection.	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
let the flush begin!	Yes, all of the white goodness from heaven is quickly turning to water :cry: . . . . . . time to mow the lawn and start riding the water! :)	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Escalante ck. and, no, I don't think it's too early to post!	weather this weekend probably will slow it down. I am not sure a visual out by the highway shows the level well because there are diversions...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
# of people vs #of boats	---Quote (Originally by BAMBAM)--- A paddle boat or 16 footer sounds like it might work. Trip is late season so don't want to big of a boat. we will...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Virgin River Narrows: Important Beta	Great piece of beta here that is in danger of being lost because it's so old. Bumping it to prevent that from happening, and because this run is...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Flip Videos ??	Sweet Cutbait carnage..that thing gets huge,it went from the river being barely worth running low to considerably higher than that video in like a...	Mountain Buzz	Colorado, Western US and everywhere else

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