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Whitewater Forum : File your eComment with FERC today! Author: irenen
Subject: File your eComment with FERC today!
Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 10:02am

Thank you!! We had a good turnout at the meeting yesterday and a lot of people spoke. It was supposed to go from 9 to noon and it went until 1 pm. Thanks to the paddlers who took the time to be there  and to those who spoke, I know some people had to take time off of work to do it.

Believe it or not these efforts are making a difference, I don't think I'm overly idealistic but this plan is so flawed on many levels (ecologically, financially, etc.) that if we can coordinate and spread the message to enough people I think it will make it much harder for FERC to approve this project.


Edited by irenen - Today at 10:02am
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Escalante ck. and, no, I don't think it's too early to post! I don't think that the diversions make much of a difference because its all ag use with immediate return flows. If it looks low at the confluence,... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
North Platte Flows North Park Anglers confirmed that it is raging up top. The Forest Service headquarters confirmed the gate at Six Mile is open. Any takers? ... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lightning The interesting thing about the GC incident is that the only folks injured were NOT wearing shoes. Everyone that had shoes on was fine. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Upslope storm / bear creek A big upslope storm is forecast to hit the front range this weekend. Of course these storms are notorious for fluctuations that can make the precip... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Virgin River Narrows: Important Beta Every bit of advice is spot-on! I would also suggest the following: Duckies are preferable because you can easily get in and out for the 30 plus... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
cataract canyon It depend on the water level, but at high flows, I definitely wouldn't want to be sitting in those eddies river left above bd2 & bd3. Not sure if... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
New Rafting Friends - Main Salmon/Grand Canyon Trip Hi Kathy, everything you mention sounds good to me. I don't do drugs, and even though I can't claim to be a teetotaler, drinking is not a constant... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
# of people vs #of boats Mid August Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Hell's Canyon Beta I love Hells Canyon down to Pittsburgh landing. Do it every year. Prefer later in the year for the pancakes or cereal with just picked blackberries.... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lightning I just spoke with Charlie Walbridge and he said AW has no history of injury or fatatility from lightning while paddling whitewater. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Grand Junction 29RD wave has gone missing??!! Side note if anyone cares to reply... I'm having a slow day at work! Anyone know about Plateau Creek? Looks like its a pretty novice run. Was... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Salt River Guide Work Questions I guide on the Arkansas and the Gauley and am looking to add some Spring guide work to my rotation so I thought I'd see about working on the Salt... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Gangsta Leavenworth Ad Author: erikSANDSTROM
Subject: Gangsta Leavenworth Ad
Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 12:30pm

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Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
cataract canyon If you're going to talk high water Cat, there's this... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Black Rock Coolers is now a Mtn Buzz partner! Hurray for the great snow pack this year. Wishing everyone a great whitewater season! Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Upslope storm / bear creek Remember for DSP running means at least 20 cfs in Bear Creek. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : File your eComment with FERC today! Author: jP
Subject: File your eComment with FERC today!
Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 1:47pm

Yeah Colby!!!!!!
I really appreciate your contribution to the dialog. We need more of it. If you don't mind I'm going to move this particular post to the thread I created full of eComment Samples. My hope is that more people will be inspired to comment if they see a diversity of comments.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : sky today and tomorrow Author: plumb328
Subject: sky today and tomorrow
Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 2:15pm

I will be at split rock around 4:00 or a little before. Eric 360-224-8010
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : sample eComments to FERC Author: megspk
Subject: sample eComments to FERC
Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 2:15pm

Hey PP! It's really awesome to see how many people have put time and effort into writing to FERC and going to that meeting on Tuesday! We have such an amazing community here!
THANK YOU JP for encouraging us and pushing us so hard to Save The Skykomish!

Here's a copy of what I sent to FERC:

Dear Secretary,

I am writing in regards to docket # P-14295-001, the Washington Sunset Fish Passage and Energy Project. I strongly oppose the Washington Sunset Fish Passage and Energy Project.

Please read the Washington State Legislature?s webpage on the Skykomish river and the river?s Wild and Scenic designation. Here is a link to the website: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=79A.55&full=true

The Washington State Legislature?s webpage under section 79A.55.070 states ?The Skykomish river from the junction of the north and south forks of the Skykomish river to (b) Upstream approximately twenty miles on the south fork to the junction of the Tye and Foss rivers.? This description of the south fork Skykomish river clearly indicates what sections are covered under the Scenic River System and is indeed on the same section of river as the above proposed hydroproject. I am extremely surprised this project has gotten as far as it has without more simple notice of this FACT. Documentation posted by FERC in August 2013, resisted comments by outsiders and tried to confirm the fact this is not a protected section of river, but it very well is.

The Skykomish river is one of the most beautiful areas in the state of Washington. Why would you want to potentially ruin it with a hydroproject that is not projected to make an immense impact in the amount of power it can produce at a reasonable cost? There are more cost effective and less environmentally impactful options like solar and wind power, available at our fingertips. Multiple millions of dollars are needed to just make this project happen. These millions of projected dollars do not clearly state how much this facility will cost to maintain over it?s time in use either. The cost started at $170 million dollars and has only continued to rise since the initial estimation.


The Sunset Falls area is already riddled with it?s own landslide issues that have been progressing naturally over time. How can PUD protect the people?s home?s and properties along the river during this project? Can the PUD protect the lives of their workers and people contracted to do the project? Can the PUD guarantee they won?t further the landslides while they drill and blast through bedrock and river rocks? Can PUD guarantee protection of the Skykomish river waters from pollution from drilling, blasting, and disturbing local mines? Last year the Animas River in Colorado suffered a huge disaster when a mine was ?accidentally? disturbed. What happens when large amounts of rain and snowmelt make the Skykomish flood? Can the PUD provide it?s project from being destroyed by 100,000 cfs (cubic feet per second) of water, boulders, rocks, and trees making their way down the river, naturally?

Today, across the United States, South America, and other countries, we are striving to rid our rivers of dams we thought would change our energy future. Only to discover these dams are not cost effective, they require daily maintenance, and staff around the clock to keep them in working form. Over time these dams and hydroprojects become more of an eyesore, money traps, unstable, and cause a huge environmental blockade to natural processes only a free flowing river can provide.

Granted this is not a proposed dam, this is a hydro-electric project that would include a 7 foot high, 260 foot long diversion weir and intake structure. PUD is proposing to build a tunnel that would divert 2 naturally occurring waterfalls, Canyon Falls and Sunset Falls, and about 1.1 miles of the south fork of the Skykomish River. The PUD has tried to state they have the natural habitats and inhabitants of the Skykomish drainage kept in mind during the project?s formation, but so far I have only heard information that is not directly pertinent and does not make sense to me. The PUD was asked to provide clear documentation on the effects the bypass for salmonoids (baby Salmon), but they only provided documentation on the adult fish, which are much bigger and durable and able to sustain a more ?unnatural? journey over the bypassed waterfalls. Currently the salmonoids safely fall over Canyon Falls, recover in a pool, then fall over Sunset, and recover, again, in a pool before journeying downstream. If the salmonoids were expected to go through the diversion, they would lose out on the much needed ?recovery time? between pools and this would likely cause an increase in salmonoid deaths, decreasing the salmon population. The project also mentions decreasing natural water levels and increasing the natural water temperatures. Both of these actions will largely change the water habitat and finitely affecting the inhabitants which are already in need of our watch and care, so they don?t disappear (Bulltrout, Chinook, and Steelhead are examples).

I am also an avid whitewater enthusiast amongst thousands of whitewater enthusiasts that have learned the ropes on the Sky. The Skykomish river has helped me transform my abilities in a kayak by providing a beautiful environment that offers class 1 to class 6 rapids and features. The Skykomish has offered me a beautiful spectrum of mother nature that no other place can provide. The ?Sky? is a place I can escape to, to avoid the city, get my whitewater, and nature fix. I have seen eagles, herons, ducks, and countless salmon along my river travels.    There?s also a community of river people that love the Sky just the way it is and would hate to see any detriment or harm come to such a beautiful area or it?s above water and underwater inhabitants.

Please respect the Skykomish river?s Wild and Scenic designation and protect it from further damage and unnatural modifications. Please help to protect our waterways and our future!

Sincerely,

Megan Paige Kelly
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : sample eComments to FERC Author: jP
Subject: sample eComments to FERC
Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 2:09pm

Awesome. Who else wants to post up their submitted eComment here?

I just copied and pasted this, so its formatting is all f'd up, but...One concerned paddler wrote:

DARREN ALBRIGHT, GIG HARBOR, WA.
Sunset Falls, the South Fork of the Skykomish and the greater Skykomish
River Valley is a truly amazing and special place. Since I was a
teenager, I've enjoyed rock climbing, kayaking, hiking, swimming and much
more in the immediate vicinity of Sunset Falls. Last year, I took my six
year old son backpacking for the first time right up the road from Sunset
Falls. We enjoyed the view of Sunset Falls from the trail. After the trip
we went swimming and kayaking below the falls.
Any dam, hydro project, power lines or construction would be a huge loss
to such a special place. I understand we need power, and greatly enjoy
the benefits that hydro brings us, however this location is a horrible
selection. There are very few places left that offer such incredible
scenery and awesome experiences. Especially within such close proximity
to large cities.
Experiences I enjoyed as a child and the experiences shared with our next
generations would be greatly impacted by a decision to move forward with
any sort of dam/hydro project on the South Fork/Sunset Falls vicinity.
I ask that you not allow any further development of this project!
This project is against the public's best interest!
Please deny this Draft License!
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : File your eComment with FERC today! Author: jP
Subject: File your eComment with FERC today!
Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 2:04pm

Originally posted by irenen


Believe it or not these efforts are making a difference, I don't think I'm overly idealistic but this plan is so flawed on many levels (ecologically, financially, etc.) that if we can coordinate and spread the message to enough people I think it will make it much harder for FERC to approve this project.


very true, Irene- Yes- Thanks for those who showed up. And to echo Irene's comment, I won't elaborate on the details, but suffice to say we are seeing evidence that the Comment Card drive and the recent increase in eComments is making a difference. It's also worthy to note, (and again you can ask me in person for the details) the meeting we just attended is actually the result of a comment someone submitted .

I think its important to emphasize here that we should embrace this opportunity to let our voices collectively speak for the river. Rather than see it as a chore or an interuption to our "busy" lives (bullsh*t on the being too busy alibi, btw) we should put the same passion we get from paddling into writing a comment. It comes down to priorities and it doesn't take more than a few minutes or maybe a half hour writing something thoughtful. So I encourage PPeeps to visit the thread I started with some sample letters. Hopefully those who have submitted comments will post theirs too in the thread.

Let's have FUN with this. We are a very unique group of people. I don't have to remind you all the many and immediate ways in which we bond and form relationships in this sport. We are naturally more prone to be somewhat galvanized than otherwise. We can be the leverage that removes this seemingly inevitable yet stuPID threat.

PM me if you want to get involved a little more.There is Stuff Going On. It's not just about the Comment Cards and the 4/27 deadline for comments is just the current milestone of this process.

Edited by jP - Today at 2:05pm
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : sample eComments to FERC Author: cbishop1
Subject: sample eComments to FERC
Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 9:10am

Here's what I wrote,
Sorry for the slow response JP! Keep pushing buddy!

Greetings,

I am writing to express my sincere disappointment that a dam is being considered on the Skykomish River near Sunset falls. As a PUD user, I can't help but feel there must be some sort of private interest that stands to gain from this ridiculous project. I say this because it seems like a terrible idea in every regard. Some wealthy interest making money seems like the only plausible motivation.

I have read quite a bit of literature on the effect of dams for fish and other aquatic life. The results are often appalling. We have already decimated the Northwest fish population with dams, clear cutting (soil erosion), and pollution amongst other things. How can we even be considering adding a dam when we are removing them all around the Northwest? Fishermen as well as many other species rely on the fish for their survival, well being, and enjoyment.

Another concern that comes to mind is our pristine Northwest scenery. The Northwest is moving away from dams, logging, and mining. Those industries are no longer economically feasible. Only a few wealthy citizens benefit from widespread destruction. The contemporary/future industry that will be successful in rural areas is tourism. We will run out of rivers to dam, trees to cut, and minerals to mine but we will always have our beautiful scenery if we are careful to protect it. Eco-tourism is the future for rural Northwest communities, it is time to embrace that. I myself know hundreds of people who use the Skykomish River for various forms of recreation. Adding a dam to POSSIBLY lower electricity costs is an incredibly ill conceived idea.

Thank you for reading and for giving the opportunity for public comment. I sincerely hope rational and logical minds will prevail to cancel this project. Although I am sure the idea had good intentions, when one considers all the factors, costs, and benefits; it becomes clear that a dam has no place on the Skykomish River.

Kind Regards,
Colby Bishop
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
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River Running vs Running a River People get way too worked up over the smallest things. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Hell's Canyon Beta My dad is wanting to fish on my trip. Are you mainly fishing for trout or bass? Kyle Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Virgin River Narrows: Important Beta ---Quote (Originally by Outlaw)--- Every bit of advice is spot-on! I would also suggest the following: Duckies are preferable because you can... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : sample eComments to FERC Author: jP
Subject: sample eComments to FERC
Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 2:26pm

So you see there are many angles to approach this. And as boaters, you know that more often than not, how your line through a rapid goes is all about the approach.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : sample eComments to FERC Author: jP
Subject: sample eComments to FERC
Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 2:23pm

Here's a great example of someone digging a little deeper in this case calling out FERC because the documents are suggesting that snoPUD can get away with the less intensive Environmental Assessment instead of having to conduct an EIS which is more stringent...

Her comment is in "River Green" below...


April 8, 2016

Kimberly Bose, Secretary
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission
888 First Street NE
Washington, DC 20426

Re: FERC #P-14295, Sunset Falls Fish Passage Project Draft License Application

Dear Ms. Bose and members of the FERC licensing team,

In the cover letter for SD2, from August 27, 2013 FERC Accession number 20130827-3040(30402899), is the following statement from FERC staff: ?Pursuant
to the National Environmental Policy Act of 1969, as amended, Commission staff intends to prepare an environmental assessment (EA), which will be used by the Commission to determine whether, and under what conditions, to issue a license for the project.?

I believe FERC staff erred by not requiring an Environmental Impact Statement for this project. This project, according to the proponent in the Draft LicenseApplication, is a major construction project. It is also a new hydro project.

The Federal Power Act, ยง380.6, requires preparation of an EIS for this type of unconstructed water power project instead of an EA. The only exception to that
section of the Federal Power Act appears to be

If the Commission believes that a proposed action identified in paragraph (a)of this section may not be a major Federal action significantly affecting the
quality of the human environment, an environmental assessment, rather than an environmental impact statement, will be prepared first. Depending on the
outcome of the environmental assessment, an environmental impact statement may or may not be prepared.

This proposed project, in the middle of an established community and now with an ongoing landslide in close proximity to the proposed tunnel blasting sites, will
directly---and adversely---affect the quality of the human environment. For FERC to make the statement that an EIS is not needed appears contrary to the language
of the Power Act. The Federal Power Act appears to regard the preparation of an EA as an exception to be applied only in the case of projects, including new
hydropower projects, that pose only very minor impacts. That is not the case here; significant environmental impacts are posed by the project.

As you may know, I?m new to the process of licensing hydro projects. If I have misunderstood the basic tenets of the Federal Power Act with regard to requiring an EIS rather than an EA, I trust that FERC staff will promptly let me know.

Thank you for the opportunity to provide this comment.
Lora Cox
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : sample eComments to FERC Author: megspk
Subject: sample eComments to FERC
Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 2:43pm

I'd be interested to hear what they had to say about the fishies yesterday!

Again everyone who is taking the time to comment is awesome and thank you!
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : sample eComments to FERC Author: megspk
Subject: sample eComments to FERC
Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 2:42pm

It's interesting how SnoPUD has tried to work it's way around several FACTS.

http://www.snopud.com/Site/Content/Documents/sfpep/SFFERCDocs/SD2.pdf

This documentation (it is from 2013) starting on page 4 addresses the EXACT issue Lora Cox is writing about. I also found on page 6 they tried to state the south fork of the Skykomish WAS NOT apart of the Wild and Scenic designation and protection. I read all 9 pages of this. I'm sure there are more errors that I'm just not knowledgeable to pick up on. I'm sure there is more updated paperwork somewhere too. I just don't know how to find it.
I find it disheartening they are so willing to be untruthful.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Gangsta Leavenworth Ad Author: dave
Subject: Gangsta Leavenworth Ad
Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 2:59pm

Dude, best video I have ever seen.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
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Salt River Guide Work Questions Good luck. Hasn't been enough water to warrant any of the veteran guides I know going down in recent years. Most of them have worked for Salt River... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
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