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Lower Owyhee Tow/paddle out? Where did you takeout? We're considering a May 8 launch with the rise in water? Is the lake pretty full by this time of year? Based on some earlier... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Aire Super Puma on MF Salmon this June? My Puma has done the M.F. 3 times at lower water stages. It ran great. High water? If you have a good supporting group of boats with you for... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Middle Fork Salmon questions... ---Quote (Originally by rivh2o)--- I would go with the 15 degree bag better to have than not, your going to be glad you did. ---End Quote---... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Comment Period has Closed. Now What? Author: megspk
Subject: Comment Period has Closed. Now What?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 7:12pm

Originally posted by JoesKayak

If not, the next stage we'll really need to reach out to other recreational groups. The anglers and the hikers especially. We are a small group. Those groups are much much bigger and have the same interest as us in keeping rivers and other natural places unspoiled.



You are correct on this! I didn't notice a lot of voice or presentation at the meeting I went to from fisherman or other outdoor enthusiasts outside kayakers.

One of the best letters I read on FERC was from a local outdoor lover than mentioned the surrounding hikes and beauty.   I have been very narrow-minded in my thinking about saving the rivers. We definitely need to reach out to the hikers that love Lake Serene and the other places accessible by the same access road as the project. We also need to push the Index loving crowd that includes our rock climbers and boulderer's that climb right at Boulder Drop. Snowboarders and skiers not being able to get to Steven's Pass to ride because of huge delays in traffic, would be another group I didn't think to target.

We will have to remember them if the fight continues on, but I truly hope FERC realizes how important and beautiful the Skykomish river is and stops the project.

Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Comment Period has Closed. Now What? Author: megspk
Subject: Comment Period has Closed. Now What?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 7:04pm

Originally posted by jP

To succeed with that effort is going to require involvement from us. So this is the answer to the question in the title of this thread "What Now?" Not that its gotta happen right-the-FERC-Now!, but it needs to happen. This is abzurd (say that w/ a british accent- that's why the z is there. FERCin Brits! When are they gonna learn to speak English, anyway?)


JP! I just want to say again THANK YOU for working so hard on this! If it weren't for your encouragement, I don't think FERC would have gotten nearly the number of comments that it received. I have ready MANY of the letters from residents, whitewater enthusiasts, general river lovers and dam/hydroproject haters, the local Native Tribes, and even our National Park Service. I was impressed at many of the letters and the definite effort that was made. There were some real heart wrenchers in there and some awesome in your face factual stuff that is key. I would have to say the majority of the letters were against the hydroproject happening or addressed the fact that SNOPUD still has yet to answer many of the same repeated questions about the water levels and accurate information on the how it will affect the fish population and how much power this thing can actually provide for the cost it will take to build and maintain. I didn't read all the letters, but I never read one that was for it.

I'm not sure how to go ahead on the doing the next step. There's still some questions to be answered and people to talk to, but I am IN on making that happen!! We gotta get the Sky protected so these types of permits are null and void.

Are there are other rivers out there that need our help too? I am local to the PNW since 2012, but I am still learning about all the rivers and watersheds here. I'd love to learn more about how to get engaged in helping the rivers of Washington stay the way they are or working towards an improved state of being (i.e. dam removals, habitat clean ups, etc). I think education is the key, especially when we are trying to get our non whitewater eco friends to join the crusade!

Again thanks JP!!! I really think everyone made a dent in the SNOPUD's project advancement!! Thanks to everyone that submitted a comment, no matter how big or small. Just letting FERC know that people out there are aware of what's going on is important.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Speed rail fitting failure ---Quote (Originally by cupido76)--- It didn't fail when I was drilling... years later. ---End Quote--- That would be plastic deformation. It can... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Poudre Rock Report I am getting virus warnings on the poudre rock report site and last week I was redirected to another site a couple of times. Sounds like the site... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Green River A B C Pre-River Camping and Section C? Hello All! So we have a trip planned for the Green A B C sections for Memorial Day (Yep) weekend, and have reserved our site in the B section for... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Riken Nez Perce SB Floor I have an older 14' Hyside, had a slow leaking floor - too many areas of worn cracking material small leaks, Hyside replacement was stupid expensive,... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
San Juan - Several Spaces Available S.I. - C.H. 5/7 - 5/14 Dang! Great dates! You'll have a great time and I would love to come along, but I have a conflict. Dang! Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Win a Free Pyranha KAYAK or a trip to Peru or Mexico, courtesy of SierraRios! Countdown to the best Golden Rodeo Series EVER. WE have lots of SWAG to give AWAY! We are going to give away a FREE Pyranha kayak courtesy of both... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Middle Fork Salmon questions... Sounds like I'll be taking the same set-up that I took to the GC in March; tent, Exped mat, and my 15 bag with my puffy for a pillow / extra layer. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Green River A B C Pre-River Camping and Section C? First off a couple of things to note. At the start of the "A" section you won't be allowed to rig on the ramp, the rangers keep things moving pretty... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Poudre Rock Report linux isn't liking the rockreport either... anyone got eyes on the rock lately?? pv-bridges laps on monday and tuesday if anyones interested.... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lower Owyhee Tow/paddle out? We took out at birch creek. Taking out at Leslie gulch would have been a nightmare with the wind we had. The flat water had whitecaps and with the... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Bulkhead replacement? Author: tiziak
Subject: Bulkhead replacement?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 10:10pm

Anyone have 2 cents to spare?

Do the pros of ripping out your boats bulkhead and replacing it with foam outweigh the headache involved?

Is the weight really that different when you have 16 inches of foam up there? Is it worth it? Anybody kitted out their sick-ass Mambas with foam?

Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : File your eComment with FERC today! Author: jP
Subject: File your eComment with FERC today!
Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 10:05pm

Yup. 7,000+ comments! I am only bumping this to showcase Joe's above instructions for accessing the docket articles. This way, though the comment period is over now, peeps can still dig into whats going on if they want.

Joe, thanks man- I've always valued you as a member of our community. Great hitting that Snohomish Pilchuck lap the other week! Great paddling with ya and I got to discover a cute little gem of a run I'd never known of before! What a treat!
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Aire Super Puma on MF Salmon this June? Rig to flip, dress to swim. You will have the best ride. Go for it. The weight will help. Rig low, have big boat support and a co pilot that you can... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
A cautionary tale on cat frames and toe bars. ---Quote (Originally by curtis catman)--- I am going to keep putting my toes in my foot bar because I imagine the number of times it has kept me... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Yup, Budo Fest 2016 is on!!!! https://www.facebook.com/events/1531974713779080/ and if you don't have FB, I commend you. Any questions email me at [email protected]... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Green River A B C Pre-River Camping and Section C? There is camping on c. At the top, there are blm sites, one of which is a pay site. A few more sites past Jarvie, first on right, second on left... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Anyone driving Portland to Seattle 5/6 or 5/7? Author: Fun Eli
Subject: Anyone driving Portland to Seattle 5/6 or 5/7?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 10:30pm

Need to get 3 boats from Alder Creek Kayak and Canoe in Portland up to Seattle. I got your gas money. Please let me know.

Thanks,
Eli
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Bulkhead replacement? Author: jP
Subject: Bulkhead replacement?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 11:30pm

I totally agree, jP. Gosh what a knowledgable guy, that jP.

Hey jP- don't you agree that jP sure knows everything?
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Bulkhead replacement? Author: jP
Subject: Bulkhead replacement?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 11:18pm

Dude nobody comes round here nomore- just look at my threads-twenty posts of me having a convo w/ myself. How are you today, jP? Pretty good, jP howbouchu?...was it something I said? Everything I said? Megan and Joe and Irene chime in once in awhile so I can save face but you know when I come along you're bound to get buried beneath a dumptruck full of pennies. fu*kin sh*t costs more to produce than its worth!

Haha seriously though- why do you want to? Weight savings?
I hate to say it but I'm just not as opinionated as I used to be. #Lie

When I got the Shiva I took Darren's advice and taped the handles of two milk jugs together and jammed them in front of my bulkhead for floatation/filler. Not sure about the results or if that adressed your (?) Prolly leaks by now tho so maybe thats an unwanted weight INCREASE.

Without *literally* weighing both alternatives on a scale hard to tell. I bet its negligible and I am starting to get less motivated each time so I don't think its worth the hassle. I had a good ten year streak where I could entertain myself for awhile trash talking the failings of these boats outfitting, but since 2011 I've had to shut up about that because the average boat is pretty damn sophisticated.

I guess it comes down to the needs of high impact stress? I'm definitely more concerned about weight since I be portaging anything requiring more rigorous impact standards.

What are the bro bras saying who foam sh*t out?

If I was gonna undertake such a project I would do a cross hatch of one inch thick strips over laid and stacked to give you some shock absorption but i love to bear down on my boat when I paddle and push hard at times w/ my feet so my question is if you'd end up w/ the equivilent of those shocks on bike seats when you see some gaper riding a mtn bike hard down mainstreet, ass bouncing up and down- lots of energy lost there in that seat post shock. Anyway I saw that cross hatch idea on you tube and admired it. The cross hatch strips of minicel were glued to...mighta been two layers of 3" cant remember. If only you could do it as fast as the guy in the video! He must be one of those guys I see in all those kayak videos- how do those guys walk so damn fast all the time? I must be gettin old.

Well prolly doesnt even adress your question. Good luck digging out from under them pennies





Edited by jP - Today at 11:25pm
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Aire Super Puma on MF Salmon this June? ....if you have to ask.........well you know the rest. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Big Creek in 4 days (including flight in) possible? Easy 2 night schedule on big creek. You could do in one night. But keep in mind that whole upper end down to Monumental Cr will have lots of logs... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Speed rail fitting failure ---Quote (Originally by cupido76)--- I can't seem to find a #13 tee... is that different from a #5 by an extra set screw on the siderail portion of... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Bulkhead replacement? Author: jP
Subject: Bulkhead replacement?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 11:37pm

See Dan, posting around here simply does NO fu*kIN GOOD.
Now this entire thread is ruined. Everyone is being rude to each other- well, not you Dan- you're cool. But everyone else here...

Man I've had it. I'm going to Face Book!
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Bulkhead replacement? Author: jP
Subject: Bulkhead replacement?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 11:34pm

Ok, I think we need a moderator. You can't talk to jP like that!
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Bulkhead replacement? Author: jP
Subject: Bulkhead replacement?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 11:33pm

You're sick, jP! SIIIIICK!
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Bulkhead replacement? Author: jP
Subject: Bulkhead replacement?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 11:32pm

Well, I wouldn't go that far, jP. But he sure is handsome. I wanna have jP's baby!
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Middle Fork Salmon questions... Yup to that, colder on the MF in June than GC in March. GC gets sun, MF in June can be wet and cold. Colder on Main in July last year than GC in... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Upper Owyhee, lost gear, wrecked boat Half of baby blue has been erected on the left bank at the end of Cabin as a monument to your aborted expedition. Didn't see any gear on the right... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
I have a theory on bent vs straight shafts. Aloha All, I just came across this older thread randomly tonight and decided to register and throw up something I over wrote 14 years ago when I... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
New feature Big Drop 2? motor boatin sob was probably down there about the same time as me. We ran it on the 24th of April at about 11k I would say, a fairly soft level for... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
A cautionary tale on cat frames and toe bars. Thank you Spider, and thank you for your support of our Veterans, I saw on your website where you give a discount to Vets. Very nice looking... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Aire Super Puma on MF Salmon this June? ---Quote (Originally by nastysauce)--- my father once told me, "son, dont be a pussy". ps. super puma dont flip check avitar ---End Quote---... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Upper Owyhee, lost gear, wrecked boat ---Quote (Originally by dclopton)--- Hey Carvedog,Some photos are living on an SD card in a flooded dry bag along the Owyhee. I didn't take many... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Frame set-up and rigging advice needed So cool to see the thread revival. I have added a drop bag under the table and love it. I haven't seen Panama Red post in a while. For the... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Browns Canyon fundraiser "Wrenched" Friends of Browns Canyon, Friends Of Browns Canyon, Colorado � Browns Canyon National Monument (http://brownscanyon.org), is presenting a screening... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
2016 Colorado Wooden Boat Float 6th Annual Colorado Wooden Boat Float will be on July 16th, 2016. Once again we will be floating the Upper Colorado River. More information on... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Looking for a Good Starter Creeker ---Quote (Originally by benR)--- Kevin K. in Boulder is selling a nearly-new Nomad 8.5 (i think I saw it on CL) for a fair price. ---End Quote---... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lower Owyhee Levels I am setting out on a solo lower Owyhee trip launching tomorrow, but something unexpected happened. The level has bumped up! I realized that all... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Mamba or Nomad? It feels like somewhere in about 2010 boat manufacturers decided to tweak the way they measure gallons so they wouldn't be accused of being small...... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
2016 Colorado Wooden Boat Float Hello - I was curious if rubber is allowed? Although i do not have a wooden boat yet, I plan to start that process soon. I am planning to start... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Best creek boat for a beginner (me) Like yourself, I was sure I wanted a Burn based on internet reading but once I finally got one I found that Pyranha outfitting wasn't for me and I... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Lower Owyhee Levels the river gets easier as the water comes up.. I have ran it as high as 4800 and it all just gets easier. AT 4800 nuisance and Montgomery are both... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Speed rail fitting failure These guys have decent pricing. Not quite wholesale but pretty good. ... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Big Creek in 4 days (including flight in) possible? thanks much for the info. What would you suggest for a map? Just a regional topo? What other gear suggestions would you make? I'm going to... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
2016 Colorado Wooden Boat Float Thanks for the update Mark. Love the Photo Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else