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Rapid rig question I got some measurements for you guys. Mine has 21.5Â? clearance from the top of the trex to the bottom of the upper deck. Paul, mineÂ?s only a 4ft... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Salt River Weekend of 02/21 Yeah! Just go down river Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Friday afternoon boating? Author: Nick
Subject: Friday afternoon boating?
Posted: 19 Feb 2016 at 3:44pm

Dat work sieve got meh...
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Solo Boating Author: outdoorjunkie88
Subject: Solo Boating
Posted: 19 Feb 2016 at 3:54pm

I think it depends on what the purpose is. I like to solo to really get into the back country and be isolated. I could also see doing solo runs if you are training or practicing for an event. I also learn the river a lot better if I am on my own, I tend to paddle better.

I def wouldn't push my limits, well except for that one or two times but I like a good adventure. and lets be realistic, most likely the worst case scenario is that you lose your gear and you have to hike out. It's not like a free solo climb, at least for me.

I get in more trouble when I'm with the group and they all go over some epic rapid that is probably above my skill level but I go anyway.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
dry top and pants vs dry suit ---Quote (Originally by soggy_tortillas)--- I also prefer splash tops to dry tops. My Bomber Gear top is excellent (sad they shut down), with a... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
new raft advice - sotar or aire ---Quote (Originally by elkhaven)--- I was shocked at how little shape was there. . ---End Quote--- Elkhaven I understand what you are saying,... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Solo Boating Author: dinsdalw
Subject: Solo Boating
Posted: 19 Feb 2016 at 4:27pm

i'm probably a bit out of the mainstream on this topic. i often paddle by myself, probably a third to half the times i paddle. i have taken a few solo paddling trips out of the country (canada, mexico, chile) and at this point have spent a lot of time paddling hard and remote runs by myself. it is a mixed bag. i feel i paddle better when paddling alone because i am able to concentrate and focus more intently than i ever can while with a group. but if you have problems and swim your boat will probably be lost or destroyed. wild places feel more majestic alone in my opinion, but it's great to share the adventures kayaking can get you with others. i find my appetite for paddling alone diminishing with time because it's a real pain to jog, bike or hitchhike every shuttle.

all that said i've made some really bad judgment calls putting in on runs i didn't know at dubious flows. i put on tumwater canyon above the wall at 9500 cfs on the peshastin gauge having never paddled the run before and planning to boat scout my way down. i swam in the wall and an aghast spectator called the police. after recovering my gear and starting the run up to my vehicle an officer picked me up and was surprisingly respectful; he didn't even call me stupid.

i hiked past the normal 22 waterfalls put-in to the top of the canyon on the rio claro in chile and ended up running a section that had a bunch of horrible crack drops and unscoutable class 5 disappearing out of sight around blind corners in a 3 to 10 foot wide slot canyon. one particularly memorable drop had a tiny shelf above it i could get out on to scout. i looked at this thing and damn near started crying. it dropped about 10 feet into a seething cauldron with undercut walls and then fell another 15 feet out of view with a large limbo log right at the lip with about 1 foot of clearance. i flipped in the first drop and went down the second one upside down and backward, felt a violent acceleration and tumult, rammed into a wall, broke one of the foot braces on impact and sloppily rolled up into a calm corridor.

these kind of experiences will start to pile up into an undifferentiated and desensitizing set of impressions if you paddle by yourself a lot. probably the biggest safety benefit i get from paddling with others is not the occasional presence of a throw bag at a tough rapid but the better judgment that others can interject when i'm trying to make good decisions.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Best day or weekend trips from the Front Range I'm excited to get out for my first full season in my IK and/or hard shell. What are the best rivers or sections of rivers for up to Class III (or IV... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Rule of thumb when you have to swim?? The rule of thumb about swimming is that there are no rules. You do what you have to do to make sure you survive. My best advice is to paddle with... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
dry top and pants vs dry suit This thread is beat up, I couldn't make it through pages 3 and 4 so I jumped to the end. You get what you pay for in outdoor-tech goods. Get a... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
info on lower freemont river Hey Gunner, glad to hear you are getting excited. The Fremont through Cap Reef is not a glamour run but it's worth doing if you are in the area. ... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Great Deals Out There If you need 8 1/2 foot oars... Raft Frame and Oars (http://westslope.craigslist.org/bpo/5455642305.html) Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
dry top and pants vs dry suit ---Quote (Originally by lmyers)--- I'm sorry if this is rude, but are you boating at this time of year? Do you run only class II-III mid summer?... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Rapid rig question Thanks! Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
info on lower freemont river Wow, Wow, Wow what a post Kit, simply incredible my man. How in the hell do you remember all this stuff. Yes I want as many miles as possible my... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Getting a cancellation on Recreation.gov Here is a link to an article with more information on how a weighted lottery might work. When I responded to the survey in 2013 I was in favor of it.... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Rule of thumb when you have to swim?? Every circumstance is different. Keep your head, make smart choices. Be willing to let go of your gear although since I paddle with a Jimistyk, a... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Buy \ Sell \ Give \ Receive : FSBO : 18' Grand Canyon Raft Package Author: rickaand53
Subject: FSBO : 18' Grand Canyon Raft Package
Posted: 19 Feb 2016 at 6:20pm

( Not sure if this is how to list something for sale;
   FSBO link didn't work )

GRAND   CANYON    RAFT    PACKAGE   FOR   SALE

18   foot,     2004    HYSIDE    SELF ? BAILING    RAFT    in    EXCELLENT   CONDITION,     $ 6,000

THIS   IS   A    VERY   COMPLETE,     PROFESSIONAL    SET-UP
-     -     -     -     -     -     -     -     -     -     -     -     -

RAFT   :   18? 4?    long    x    8? 4 ?   wide,      23 ? diameter   tubes.      It   is   52 ?   wide   inside .
                Approx.   Wt.   is 150 lb.   for just the raft.

This   boat   has   been   on   only   2   trips,    one   being the GRAND CANYON.   It   was   a fabulous workhorse.   It   has   been   carefully   washed,   dried,   then rolled, then dry ? stored for the past 10 years.      It   is   time   to   let   her   go   to   someone   who   can put her back   to work..

FRAME   : 78? x 120 ?, 8 ? piece   break-down,     1-7/8?   O.D. aluminum tube FRAME   with adjustable SPEED RAIL fittings.   It   has   5   compartments   for   dry   boxes,   and is set up with pin & clips.

THREE    ENORMOUS    ALUMINUM   DRY   BOXES    &   a   151   QT   IGLOO   COOLER   fit in the compartments   ( 2 fore and 2 aft   of the center rowing position.).    
Two   plywood   floors   are   included   fore   and   aft of the frame.

Each   of    3   giant   dry   boxes   measure    52 ?   wide   x   22 ?   deep   x   20 ?   high.    That?s    13.24   cubic   feet   in   each   box    : almost    40    Cu. Ft.   !!!!

The   center   compartment    ( a foot - well for the oarsman )   also holds   2   additional   dry storage boxes..   The   2   smaller   dry   boxes   are   22 ?   wide   x   14 ? deep   x   19 ?   high.
That?s   another    3.38   Cu. / Ft.   of dry storage each, totaling   
6. 76 Cu. Ft.

That?s   over   46   Cu.   Ft.    of   dry storage, and it is all no higher than side of the   tubes.   That   makes   for   a   very low center of gravity.

There are 18 - HEAVY DUTY D-rings on the outside of the tubes, 6 - HEAVY   DUTY    D-rings   on the inside, center area   of   the tubes, as well as 7   -   almost   HD     D-rings   inside   on   each end to support the plywood floor.               
                                
Also   included   are   :
     Six   - 10   foot   SAWYER   oars   ( 2 fiberglass, 4 wood );
     Additional    aluminum   MOTOR   MOUNT    frame;
     A   One - inch   diameter   GRAB   LINE   around   the   outside   of   the   tubes;
     4    built ? in hand holds on the outer tubes to help   carry it;
     An   8 ? x 8?   custom, folding    canvas   BIMINI   SUN   SHADE;
     Side   boards   for   Bimini   Sun Shade to attach to;
     A    27? x 64 ?    table that   nests   over   a dry box.

Located   in   Sandy, Oregon,   26 miles east of Portland on US Hwy   26.      A   comparable   NEW   HYSIDE   will   cost you over
$ 7000   just for the raft.
This   complete   set ? up   was   well   over    $   12,000   new.

In    EXCELLENT    CONDITION ,     selling   for   only   $ 6,000.

Contact      Rick   Andriesian        503?668?8848      [email protected]

          
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Lost \ Found \ Stolen : Lost paddle Author: thad2000
Subject: Lost paddle
Posted: 19 Feb 2016 at 6:55pm

yea,.. I loaned my paddle out.. thought there would be three of us going down the river, but after the paddle was lost only two... and the other guy was really new in an inflatable. So I didn't screw around. It's good to get out in bigger water when I've been keeping to low flows.
I took the safest lines. I'd be for doing it again when I had more confidence in support. Then I could work on heavy current stuff.


Edited by thad2000 - Today at 6:58pm
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Lost \ Found \ Stolen : Lost paddle Author: thad2000
Subject: Lost paddle
Posted: 19 Feb 2016 at 7:03pm

It's not bad, seems safe enough. The guy who lost the paddle was caught in a bad whole.. but flushed him after 3 roll attempts. Most of it was just strong moving with some nice wave trains and occasional side waves from the banks. Just remember a bit of respect.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Rapid rig question I've watched these Rapid Rig trailer threads for a couple of years with interest. I really like some of the ideas that are incorporated into this... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Balancing Weight on Raft Pudgeman, one other thing to answer your question. Last year I was lucky enough to follow some world class boaters down a few rivers on my play boat.... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
River in a forest... ---Quote (Originally by GreenWall)--- Your banging around in the neighborhood! I use to run the chetco before it was made into a Facebook... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Rule of thumb when you have to swim?? William Nealy cartoons kicked ass! Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Best day or weekend trips from the Front Range I'd take a weekend and camp in either the Poudre or Arkansas Valley. Both rivers have excellent class II-IV runs. Both can be done as day trips... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Rule of thumb when you have to swim?? ---Quote (Originally by bystander)--- I noticed the cartoon recommended leaving the boat upside down if you lack float bags to prevent swamping, and... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Sky Tomorrow!! Author: Matt Haverly
Subject: Sky Tomorrow!!
Posted: 19 Feb 2016 at 8:33pm

Hey, I could come up and run shuttle for you guys. My Wenatchee trip fell through. I'm not exactly sure about running this myself at this level but I am close by and could shuttle for folks. See you at 11am. :)
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Whitewater Forum : Any interest in Jefferson? Author: tiziak
Subject: Any interest in Jefferson?
Posted: 19 Feb 2016 at 8:48pm

It could be in tomorrow if we get a little bit more rain.
Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Rapid rig question Which rapid rig did you see? Just wanted to clarify for your observations on quality. It sounds like it might have been one of this Randy guy's... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Balancing Weight on Raft Little cat mean little loads. Ultimately, you are going to have a very difficult time balancing those huge boxes with that frame on those tubes.... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
River in a forest... ---Quote (Originally by GreenWall)--- I use to run the chetco before it was made into a Facebook destination, last time I was there all kinds of... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Rapid rig question I am with Willie 1.5 on that one I have seen them in person,followed the rattling things down a gravel road for miles and they look a bit cheesy... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
River in a forest... ---Quote (Originally by GreenWall)--- Up to tincup and go down the the barn with the pond to put in with the cat. And then I have my packy also,... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
kokopelli nirvana XL self bailer Anyone have any experience paddling the Kokopelli nirvana self bailer in class III to IV+, how well does it bail? Nirvana XL Self-Bailer �... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
River in a forest... about what year did you first run the upper chetco and in what craft? Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Aire 156R vs 160DD Never mind, I'm confused here because it looks like the OP vanished and I am replying to other users. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
R4 National Rafting Championship The United States Rafting Association is hosting its 2016 R4 National Championship on April 1st, 2nd and 3rd on the Rogue and Upper Klamath Rivers in... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Klamath River Dam Removal ---Quote (Originally by BlueTurf)--- Quote from the linked article. 100 feet per mile? There is probably something in there I'm thinking. :)... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
kokopelli nirvana XL self bailer Sure seems like a stout little pack raft. A bit more weight, lots of carrying capacity though, and self bailing! Ya, who's paddled one? Could be a... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Rapid rig question These trailers are perfect for some people everyone's needs are different. I will seriously consider when I upgrade. Think they really make sense for... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Whitewater Forum : Any interest in Jefferson? Author: tiziak
Subject: Any interest in Jefferson?
Posted: 20 Feb 2016 at 7:59am

false alarm. 1200 and dropping...

Professor Paddle Washington, Oregon and vicinity
Rapid rig question Flat deck pulled with a truck. I pull down the road partially rigged. It's hard to see the trailer in this pick. I'd take that deal n crawfish,... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Better then Futa? Baer or Anyone, got any helpful travel tips to the Puelo. I'm planning an early April trip to there. We're going to recon fly fishing and kayaker... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
new raft advice - sotar or aire Interesting observation, elkhaven. Gonna pay attention to this now. Sent from my SM-N900V using Mountain Buzz mobile app Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Balancing Weight on Raft One strategy I have used for maintaining balance throughout a trip, is having something that looses weight at a similar rate as my cooler, in... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
kokopelli nirvana XL self bailer Id get it with the spray deck I bet that thing is a blast lol Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
canyon cooler question also, does anyone know if they are making a larger prospector model. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Balancing Weight on Raft Smaller cooler, cooler and dry box immediately behind the seat - then drybags. Keep the water and cooler weight as close to the center of the tubes... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Rapid rig question It was a Mirage, I stand corrected about dimensions 5x12 not 5x10 as I said https://eastoregon.craigslist.org/fod/5418986371.html I don't think... Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else
Glenwood Springs Bridge Replacement Got some more pics today. I'd take that deal n crawfish, then drill that ole devil in the ass. Mountain Buzz Colorado, Western US and everywhere else